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of segues into what i want to talk about. and the nra we have seen wayne lapierre acting like a fool. i think they are really concerned, because they whelded an amazing amount of power for who knows how long and they are seeing that slip through their fingers. they targeted seven candidates this past fall, and michael bloomberg purposefully challenged those seven of those candidates and he won five of the seven. >> stephanie: it's time to say the emperor has no clothes. they have no power anymore, right? >> caller: yes, i wish your republican politicians could figure that out and not live in fear of those guys any longer. >> stephanie: absolutely. be gone, you have no power here. wayne lapierre >> i think they'll turn this universal check of the law-abiding into a universal registry of law-abiding people. >> i don't quite understand what is so bad -- >> stephanie: no one does. >> you -- you register your car -- >> stephanie: right. >> people have a license plate that can be identified. >> stephanie: right, and a car isn't designed to kill. it can. >> theed in that
to the national rifle association? wayne lapierre testified last month that his organization represents some 4.5 million americans. the "washington post" fact checker took a look at that claim and give it one pinocchio. it took a look at the membership through how many people receive the magazine through subscription numbers, because people get free magazines from the nra, and the number is closer to 3.1 million, a very small percentage of the 70 million americans who say they own a gun. we're back after the break. [♪ theme music ♪] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show"! ♪ i'm walking on sunshine woe ho ♪ ♪ i'm walking on sunshine woe ho ♪ ♪ it's time to feel good ♪ ♪ hey all right now ♪ ♪ it's time to feel good ♪ >> stephanie: it is the "stephanie miller show." welcome to it. it is amazing how many 12-star generals there are out there that are against any gun control of any kind. hello, stephanie i just strumabled upon your show. wow. >> i listen to both sides of the argument. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: okay. some peop
: yeah. that's an interesting -- what do you think, congressman? >> i think wayne lapierre is going to revoke your nra membership for that. but i think you make a very good point, which is the requirements that we have for so many other things we don't apply to guns. the gun industry is treated very differently -- >> stephanie: just look at the seat belt laws, all of that stuff -- it just is incredible where people think you can't have any regulation on guns who's only purpose is to kill right? >> well, yes. well it's also for sport -- >> stephanie: well that's usually killing something. >> or target practice. >> people go for target practice, but you make an interesting point about the way we treat guns differently than other things that are far less dangerous, but now it is just such a struggle to get universal background checks that that's where we ought to put our focus. >> stephanie: you are right. nothing is always -- what does the president always say, let perfect be the enemy of good. this is where we have gotten the bar so low that we go okay if we can
. >> exactly, including gun owners. wayne lapierre doesn't speak for these people. he speaks for the manufacturers, the only people to profit since newtown. this is why lindsay graham has been going after chuck hagel, not because he has any moral core beliefs about chuck hagel being bad. lindsay graham is doing this because he knows the tea party dispieses him. >> these people do know the president can't just strike something down in the constitution. >> stephanie: i know. jeff in iowa writes steph back in the '90s the nra supported background checks and then the brady law was passed and the gun industry complained about slumping gun sales so the nra decided they are now opposed to background checks. thank you, jeff. [ applause ] >> they want a national database of mentally ill people but not of gun owners and show id when you vote, but not when you buy a weapon. >> stephanie: exactly. nra president convicted of shooting. david keane bragged this week that his pro-gun agenda would work because guns were cool his son was accused in december 2002 for shoot
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